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NhomerS
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PostPosted: 18 Mar 2003 10:01 Post subject: Reply
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please dont assume the BBG realm is the center of core
of HF, just because one realm can't control how its
members play, doesn't mean other realms are doing just
as bad. From what ive seen BF1942 wc3 and CS realms
are doing very well. retitle post: HF BBG Realm at
stake.
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crector
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PostPosted: 18 Mar 2003 11:58 Post subject: Reply
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NhomerS wrote:
please dont assume the BBG realm is the center of core
of HF, just because one realm can't control how its
members play, doesn't mean other realms are doing just
as bad. From what ive seen BF1942 wc3 and CS realms
are doing very well. retitle post: HF BBG Realm at
stake.
In an odd way, the single most depressing aspect of
this whole rotten affair is not the crimes of HYper &
Jewel for which expulsion is the only fitting penalty
as opposed to this wrist slapping nonsense, but the
comment that you made in response to a previous post
of mine. That comment was basically your bragging
about hacking in Diablo 2, just like your inability to
play the game honestly and in accordance with the
standards that House Forsaken sets for its members,
was something to be really proud of.
What's really depressing about it is not so much the
fact that you posted it to this forum, but the
reaction of others, notably the Clan Staff to it. They
didn't delete it or chastise you in public for it.
Instead, they just ignored it just as if you had
written that you like Dr. Pepper or some other
triviality.
House Forsaken is supposed to be better than that. Up
until the last 24+ hours, I actually believed that HF
really was an honorable gaming fraternity. Now, that's
very much up in doubt.
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PostPosted: 18 Mar 2003 12:33 Post subject: Reply
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i think someone is PMSing...
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PostPosted: 18 Mar 2003 12:34 Post subject: Reply
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That comment was basically your bragging about hacking
in Diablo 2, just like your inability to play the game
honestly and in accordance with the standards that
House Forsaken sets for its members, was something to
be really proud of.
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU to EVER accuse me of hacking. I
HAVE NEVER EVER HACKED, so dont even try to act like
you know me. I was simply referring to the fact that
there was hacking in d2, as I noted I am ignorant of
the fact how, but I do know the clan staff knew about
it. You've made like 20974902749274927947294 different
posts concerning this one matter, like your fucking
God and center of the Forsaken Universe. Keep your own
problems in your own realm, if you feel you cannot
handle them, then come to the rest of the clan. Also
this should be discussed with the clan leaders before
consulting the main populace, you came here to the
main forum, and criticism you have to be prepared to
get. I also have seen nothign of what Hyperion or
Jewel have said about this on the forums, and I will
say nothing more till I do, I know them better than I
know you and I respect them a lot more as members than
I do you. Who the fuck do you think you are accusing
ME of hacking. You've got some nerve.
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Nowyn
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PostPosted: 18 Mar 2003 13:07 Post subject: Reply
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crector, you need to keep your own house in order here
instead of whining at the entire clan to do something
about your house. Its a realm for a reason, I'm not
part of your realm, and frankly the way you've been
publicly humliating people lately with posts in
general discussion, you couldnt pay me enough to be
part of your realm.
Its your realm, deal with it inside your own realm.
You dont see any of the other realms dragging their
shit all over GD. These posts are pointless and lame.
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crector
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PostPosted: 18 Mar 2003 13:14 Post subject: Reply
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NhomerS wrote:
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That comment was basically your bragging about hacking
in Diablo 2, just like your inability to play the game
honestly and in accordance with the standards that
House Forsaken sets for its members, was something to
be really proud of.
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU to EVER accuse me of hacking. I
HAVE NEVER EVER HACKED, so dont even try to act like
you know me. I was simply referring to the fact that
there was hacking in d2, as I noted I am ignorant of
the fact how, but I do know the clan staff knew about
it. You've made like 20974902749274927947294 different
posts concerning this one matter, like your fucking
God and center of the Forsaken Universe. Keep your own
problems in your own realm, if you feel you cannot
handle them, then come to the rest of the clan. Also
this should be discussed with the clan leaders before
consulting the main populace, you came here to the
main forum, and criticism you have to be prepared to
get. I also have seen nothign of what Hyperion or
Jewel have said about this on the forums, and I will
say nothing more till I do, I know them better than I
know you and I respect them a lot more as members than
I do you. Who the fuck do you think you are accusing
ME of hacking. You've got some nerve.
If you look at this thread:
http://www.clan-forsaken.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11577
You will find that you said:
"I do know on Diablo 2 many of our members hacked and
that was allowed."
2 things:
1st, I misremembered what you said and thought that
you were talking about yourself as being 1 of those
members. I apologize for that.
2nd, you said that hacking was allowed by House
Forsaken of its members.
Hacking is cheating. If House Forsaken really did
sanction this cheating in Diablo 2, then HF has
already brought dishonor down on itself, long before
the HYper/Jewel garbage in TDZK and the HF
leadership's coddling of those miscreants.
Furthermore, in your above post, you also said:
"Keep your own problems in your own realm, if you feel
you cannot handle them, then come to the rest of the
clan."
Well, that's precisely what I'm doing. Bringing the
matter to the attention of the rest of the clan.
Finally, in that same post you also wrote:
"you came here to the main forum, and criticism you
have to be prepared to get."
The same also applies to everyone else here including
the likes of HYper & Jewel as well as the HF leaders
who do not appear to be enforcing their own Official
Rules & Standards in the HYper/Jewel matter in TDZK.
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Silvan
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PostPosted: 18 Mar 2003 17:45 Post subject: Reply
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If you don't like House Forsaken leave....simple as
that. Otherwise take your problems private with the
council members. Stop bringing up unwanted drama just
so you can get some attention.
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PostPosted: 18 Mar 2003 19:07 Post subject: Reply
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Crector if you are having problems and you want to
really get the Staff to work on it you need to post
the problem in the Gaming Operations I believe you are
able to use that forum. The reason its there is for
when Realm leaders or staff need to talk about things.
Such as a members action. I really dont care to see
this posted though out the clan because you are just
getting people pissed off at each other. There are
other ways to handle this I can see how you might be a
bit pissed but if you really want something to be done
you need to post in Gaming Operations or send a e-mail
to MadDog then I will look into it.
Please dont post this kind of stuff here.. THere is a
reason we have a Gaming Operations so use it.
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StormFire
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PostPosted: 19 Mar 2003 06:42 Post subject: Reply
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err...it seems that when i moved the post it deleted
the first post...odd.
anyone know why?
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PostPosted: 19 Mar 2003 14:27 Post subject: Reply
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crector wrote:
"Keep your own problems in your own realm, if you feel
you cannot handle them, then come to the rest of the
clan."
Well, that's precisely what I'm doing. Bringing the
matter to the attention of the rest of the clan.
Finally, in that same post you also wrote:
"you came here to the main forum, and criticism you
have to be prepared to get."
The same also applies to everyone else here including
the likes of HYper & Jewel as well as the HF leaders
who do not appear to be enforcing their own Official
Rules & Standards in the HYper/Jewel matter in TDZK.
what did you exactly do to solve the problem?? after
reading the thread in BBG all i can see is that you
had a verbal arguement with jewel...as the realm
leader, you should of took more action than just
accuse jewel of hackin. agreeing with nowyn, you put
great humiliation to your realm and yourself.
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PostPosted: 19 Mar 2003 20:29 Post subject: Reply
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yes, I know why.
BECAUSE YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW TO MOVE POSTS! Your new
title should be n00b admin. (use the move button at
the bottom of the page and dont leave ucky shadow's
unless you know what they're for. laminad has already
messed that up a few times. )
Love,
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Dark Personaz
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PostPosted: 19 Mar 2003 21:53 Post subject: Reply
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hmm too much crap, I was tired by the 3rd post, and I
still have 3 hours to kill, SO the only point I wish
to touch on is:
Where does it say HousE ForsakeN does NOT hack?
I dont recall seeing that anywhere
I remember hacking in Diablo. I had god mode hacks,
anti-god mode hacks, and everything inbetween
including an item database on my computer so I could
pull whatever I felt like pulling out of my but. ears,
crappy pieces of armor, nice pieces of armor, crappy
weapons, nice pieces of weapon, if i found the item,
it was in my database...
Now I know we dont do as much hacking as when we first
started, but we did start out as PKers and Hackers...
sorry to burst your bubble.
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PostPosted: 19 Mar 2003 22:32 Post subject: Reply
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DOWN AEON
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PostPosted: 20 Mar 2003 06:44 Post subject: Reply
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Crector, you don't have to drag the entire crew down
with the sinking ship because of a few people, there
are lifeboats to save the rest...
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PostPosted: 20 Mar 2003 09:41 Post subject: Reply
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That sounds like TDZK slang....it was aaron all along!
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PostPosted: 20 Mar 2003 22:58 Post subject: Reply
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huh?
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PostPosted: 20 Mar 2003 23:01 Post subject: Reply
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Dark:
Quote:
-INTEGRITY - Honesty, fairness, honor, will always be
practiced in HF. Dishonesty, cheating, and other such
behavior will not be tolerated within the clan.
http://www.clan-forsaken.com/hf3/mod.php?mod=userpage&menu=104&page_id=22
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PostPosted: 20 Mar 2003 23:02 Post subject: Reply
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crector your ambition to blow things out of proportion
is beginning to anger me.
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PostPosted: 20 Mar 2003 23:04 Post subject: Reply
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GhOsT wrote:
Dark:
Quote:
-INTEGRITY - Honesty, fairness, honor, will always be
practiced in HF. Dishonesty, cheating, and other such
behavior will not be tolerated within the clan.
http://www.clan-forsaken.com/hf3/mod.php?mod=userpage&menu=104&page_id=22
now can you show me where making 2 accounts were
against the rules? playing war3...i too make multiple
accounts for practifce and stuff. i dont play this
tdkz or watever but whats wrong with making 2
accounts?
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PostPosted: 20 Mar 2003 23:48 Post subject: Reply
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I do believe TDZK requires one account only, so other
game's rules cant apply, if its cheating under that
game's rules, it'd be cheating under HF's rules.
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PostPosted: 20 Mar 2003 23:57 Post subject: Reply
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This is starting to bug me. BBG is not going down in
flames. crector is mad because someone got tired of
the way he was handling things and decided to "spook
him" (IE: attack him with a couple of scouts).
I don't know how big that is in TDZK, but BBG has no
problems. As a member of BBG, I am proud to say that I
am a member, that we get stuff done without drama or
BS. And as a member of BBG, I'm getting tired of
crector whining about everything because his orders
were ignored. If something happens, if disciplinary
action needs to be taken, it will be. In this case it
has. Everyone please keep moving there is no problem
here.
We can all go home now, kthnxbi.
Kri has been locking and moving threads like a madman,
he doesn't need to move more.
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PostPosted: 21 Mar 2003 00:30 Post subject: Reply
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I was trying to sound wise by using a metaphor ^.^;;
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PostPosted: 21 Mar 2003 01:49 Post subject: Reply
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bdo wrote:
now can you show me where making 2 accounts were
against the rules? playing war3...i too make multiple
accounts for practifce and stuff. i dont play this
tdkz or watever but whats wrong with making 2
accounts?
in TDZK, i believe that multiple accounts is against
the rules because you can use them to advance each
other. say someone attacks you, and if you had 1
account you are too weak to do anything about it, but
if you have 2 or 3 you can go and kick his ass (you
may not understand this if you have never played any
BBG's). it just alters the game the way it was meant
to be played. its not real-time like bnet, so its
entirely different. however, i do believe this whole
situation has been blown hugely out of proportion.
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PostPosted: 21 Mar 2003 03:34 Post subject: Reply
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well, maybe if crectors orders arent being
followed...maybe BBG needs a new realm leader.
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PostPosted: 21 Mar 2003 03:49 Post subject: Reply
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crector is not realm leader.
The problem has been dealt with, punishments have been
issued. Please do not beat a dead horse.
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PostPosted: 21 Mar 2003 04:08 Post subject: Reply
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hmmm.... horsemeat.
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PostPosted: 21 Mar 2003 04:16 Post subject: Reply
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DarkWulf wrote:
Please do not beat a dead horse. icon_biggrin.gif
i think aaron would be willing to beat any horse,
living or dead.
BURN! icon_biggrin.gif icon_razz.gif
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PostPosted: 21 Mar 2003 05:11 Post subject: Reply
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Omg you are so gonna get a beating of a lifetime if i
ever meet you Snootch.
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PostPosted: 21 Mar 2003 05:28 Post subject: Reply
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My question is what exactly will you beat the horse
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Snootch is the one that came up with the idea... ask
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PostPosted: 22 Mar 2003 00:01 Post subject: Reply
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i think we're straying off topic.
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PostPosted: 22 Mar 2003 04:30 Post subject: Reply
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Straying off from this topic is a good thing...
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PostPosted: 22 Mar 2003 05:57 Post subject: Reply
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So is sex.
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Oh you betcha.
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PostPosted: 22 Mar 2003 14:59 Post subject: Reply
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okay. sex is a better topic to stray off on. horse
porn is not! we all know you love it aaron, but you
dont have to make us watch them with you! geez!!
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PostPosted: 22 Mar 2003 18:47 Post subject: Reply
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bryan likes wild farm animal sex.
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PostPosted: 22 Mar 2003 20:08 Post subject: Reply
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hehe the only time i will ever appreciate this kind of
behaivior to its fullest extent, ... when i didnt
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IGNOR THE ISSUE! YES! TANGENT TANGENT TANGENT!
ok im done, thank you for not careing and have a
whatever kind of day you want!
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PostPosted: 22 Mar 2003 20:29 Post subject: Reply
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Hi. This is Hyperion. If you are the phone company, I
already sent the money. If you are my parents, please
send money. If you are my financial aid institution,
you didn't lend me enough money. If you are my
friends, you owe me money. If you are a female, don't
worry, I have plenty of money.
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PostPosted: 22 Mar 2003 20:35 Post subject: Reply
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lmfao, ive heard that somewere before
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PostPosted: 22 Mar 2003 22:46 Post subject: Reply
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thats funny.
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Got that in my mail :/
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