119942914: (10:14 PM) [20:46] <SoleSteeler> can anyone
explain this TDZK in a few sentences?
[20:46] <Jewel[FinalsWishMehLuCk]> yea
[20:46] <Jewel[FinalsWishMehLuCk]> its really fun
[20:46] <SoleSteeler> what should i be really doing
when i first start?
[20:46] <Jewel[FinalsWishMehLuCk]> addicting
[20:46] <Jewel[FinalsWishMehLuCk]> www.tdzk.net/help
[20:47] <Jewel[FinalsWishMehLuCk]> read the tutorials
on the right
[20:47] <Jewel[FinalsWishMehLuCk]> just the trade and
119942914: (10:14 PM) came back to my comp and saw
that in IRC, serious or not, I don't know, just
thought you'd like to know stuff said about ya
119942914: (10:14 PM) I know I would if I had to, but
I just get everyone to hate me and I don't need to
know what they say about me, I just know it's all bad
:)
Chuck: (10:15 PM) Interesting. Read the tutorials,
but didn't catch the part about using multi accounts.
RobVanDam: (10:17 PM) lol
Chuck: (10:19 PM) Just like he doesn't seem to
understand that there are laws against illegally
distributing other folks's creations. If it feels
good, do it.
RobVanDam: (10:20 PM) just hope like I do, he carries
that same attitude into court
Chuck: (10:20 PM) Absolutely.
RobVanDam: (10:21 PM) kinda sad how no one gets
punished anymore
RobVanDam: (10:21 PM) this hardcore probabtion will be
a joke
Chuck: (10:21 PM) yes. HF seems to be going to the
dogs.
RobVanDam: (10:21 PM) I can't remember the last decent
recruit HF got
RobVanDam: (10:22 PM) last one I remember was when BF
was startin up, about 6 months ago maybe
Chuck: (10:22 PM) Kind of weird that the likes of
Sirthpal & TheMadWeaz get banned for far less than
what HYper or Jewel did.
Chuck: (10:24 PM) Theres a guy named Bakito who's up
for a vote in the BBG Realm who's a decent recruit.
RobVanDam: (10:24 PM) yea, but then compare it to
other current recruits
RobVanDam: (10:25 PM) you got one of the biggest
bigots you'll ever meet in Crook, and what's the
excuse? "He's from Mississippi, what do you expect?"
RobVanDam: (10:25 PM) this coming from Homer, the 2nd
in the realm
RobVanDam: (10:26 PM) under that logic, I can be just
as racist seeing as though I'm born in Idaho and I
live in the whitest voting district in America, but if
I were to say any of that shit, I'd be banned from the
forum for a month
Chuck: (10:26 PM) I know. Recruited Pagan in
November, but he stabbed us in the back in Space
Merchant Realms, just because the HF leader in that
game said something on IM that he didn't like.
Chuck: (10:26 PM) Homer is the guy who said that HF
uses hacking in Diablo 2 as some sort of defense for
what HYper did.
RobVanDam: (10:27 PM) Homer's a fucking dumbass
RobVanDam: (10:27 PM) he was one of the dumbfucks that
wouldn't wear a tag in WC3 at the start when I was the
realm leader because of their precious records
RobVanDam: (10:27 PM) when he became a leader, his
goal wasn't to rebuild the realm, it was to rebuild
his useless fucking NS
Chuck: (10:29 PM) Yes. What happened in TDZK lately
is the single worst thing that's happened in HF that
I'm aware of since I joined up in October,
2000.....and basically nothing's being done about it.
RobVanDam: (10:30 PM) I'd say the worst is the entire
CS realm being overruled by one person (Lami) but of
course I'm biased
Chuck: (10:30 PM) Thing is, HYper has really pushed
the envelope on other occaisions, but he somehow has
escaped anything more severe than a slap on the wrist,
RobVanDam: (10:30 PM) everyone did
RobVanDam: (10:30 PM) hell, look at all the shit I
pulled when I was in HF, lol
Chuck: (10:31 PM) What is Hel like?
RobVanDam: (10:31 PM) the way I'd run a clan, you'd
never see any bullshit like this
RobVanDam: (10:31 PM) active leaders, the leaders
expect a certain level of maturity and such of their
members
RobVanDam: (10:32 PM) none of this Canada is better
than America crap, or Bush vs. Saddam, they have half
a clue and banned all that shit to stop any future
problems
Chuck: (10:32 PM) About the stuff you pulled, the
thing that I remember about you most is that when that
anusandy guy came to HF to recruit for his widdle clan
and you did some magazine covers to lampoon him....
RobVanDam: (10:33 PM) bah, that was nothing
RobVanDam: (10:33 PM) I still got recordings of Apollo
making barn yard noises
Chuck: (10:34 PM) About how long do you think that HF
will last the way that its going?
RobVanDam: (10:34 PM) depends, how long will it be of
any signifigance? it ain't of any right now
RobVanDam: (10:35 PM) people talk about how superior
HF is and all this bullshit, compare it to a clan like
HEL, or the hundreds like it
RobVanDam: (10:35 PM) you could go out and pick at
random, you'll most likely find something better than
HF
Chuck: (10:36 PM) HF is pretty strong in BBG's like
SMR & TDZK, but the clan doesn't care a lot about BBGs
and most of the in-game HF players don't even try the
recruitment process.
RobVanDam: (10:36 PM) recruitment in HF is a joke
RobVanDam: (10:37 PM) you can't get anyone removed, so
you HAVE to get out the bad apples in recruitment now
RobVanDam: (10:37 PM) but no one can really expect for
a month or two to accurately represent someone
RobVanDam: (10:37 PM) that's why clans like HEL are
good, they don't give a fuck who you are, or how long
you've been a member, if you're a jackass, you're gone
Chuck: (10:39 PM) Well, both Omega Renegade, the HF
leader in SMR & I take care to submit only the best
folks that we can find who's willing to go through the
stupid process. I've known a lot of good, mature
players who have refused to go through it, since they
don't see any point in it. The way they see it, once
you sign up, you ought to be considered a member.
RobVanDam: (10:40 PM) yea, I've notice a pattern,
anyone with half a clue on how to lead can make a
successful realm in HF
Chuck: (10:41 PM) About when did HF stop practicing
what it preaches about standards? When Arwen went to
college.
RobVanDam: (10:41 PM) nah, they've been that way for a
while
RobVanDam: (10:41 PM) all talk and no action
Chuck: (10:47 PM) The main problem is that Aeon is way
too forgiving and UsuRpeR has hardly any time for the
clan anymore. Yet, he wants to be the supreme
leader....
Chuck: (10:51 PM) Just saw in the BBG Realm Forum that
Krioni wimped out on HYper's punishment,,,,,probation.
Luckily for us, Iron Ring seems to be taking it in
stride. They haven't even complained about it.
RobVanDam: (11:26 PM) well, in Dave's defense, it's
hard to let something go that you spent your time and
effort to create. He has his priorities straight
right now, and there's nothing wrong with that. The
thing is there isn't a hard-ass for a leader, and
without that you're just pissing away time
Chuck: (11:28 PM) Of all the current officers in HF,
are there any who you think is up to the task of being
that kind of "hard-ass" leader?
RobVanDam: (11:29 PM) who's active?
RobVanDam: (11:29 PM) Sean comes to mind, but it's not
a 100%
RobVanDam: (11:29 PM) the BBG realm has their act
together, but I doubt they could take over
Chuck: (11:29 PM) I mean the realm moderators and
stuff
RobVanDam: (11:29 PM) no, not a chance
Chuck: (11:29 PM) By Sean, you mean MadDog?
RobVanDam: (11:29 PM) yes
RobVanDam: (11:30 PM) but I doubt he's 100% capable
RobVanDam: (11:30 PM) but of the current active clan
staff, he's definately number 1
RobVanDam: (11:30 PM) because the current clan staff
is only him, Aeon, and Lami
Chuck: (11:32 PM) Well,, I don't have any confidence
in Aeon any more since he treated what happened in
TDZK as if it were only a vendetta against Hyper
RobVanDam: (11:32 PM) Aeon is all talk, he's ignorant
too
RobVanDam: (11:32 PM) he's one of the people who keep
talking as if HF is superior
RobVanDam: (11:32 PM) and his excuse for everything
now is HF is a "gaming guild"
RobVanDam: (11:33 PM) which is 1) Hardly gaming and 2)
Sucking at it in most respects
RobVanDam: (11:33 PM) until someone comes in with the
will and the time to turn things around, HF will only
be a forum clan
Chuck: (11:34 PM) ok...in store bought games yes. the
HF alliance in SMR NG #6 is the #1 ranked alliance.
However, only 4 regular HF members in it and hardly
any interest of the other players to even try the
recruitment process.
RobVanDam: (11:35 PM) yea, but that's what I mean
Chuck: (11:35 PM) In TDZK, not as high ranked, but we
were moving upwards until the HYper garbage happened.
RobVanDam: (11:35 PM) in a clan of over "300+ members"
but at most 150 accounted for, how many active do we
have? 4?
RobVanDam: (11:37 PM) and the BBG at least is getting
support
Chuck: (11:37 PM) You mean as players?
RobVanDam: (11:37 PM) I mean as realms period,
everything outside of BBG and BF is a joke
RobVanDam: (11:37 PM) CS can't even organize a fucking
practice, WC3 can't hold a tourny
RobVanDam: (11:38 PM) WoT is, well, WoT, there's about
8 clans maybe, and we just recruited the best one.
Chuck: (11:38 PM) Well, I don't know anything about
the realms outside of BBG on playing games. In BBG,
most of the members are at least fairly active
players.
RobVanDam: (11:38 PM) that's because you got decent
members
RobVanDam: (11:39 PM) CS members are useless
RobVanDam: (11:39 PM) WC3 are even worse
RobVanDam: (11:39 PM) WoT are good, but they don't
belong
RobVanDam: (11:39 PM) EQ is off on it's own
Chuck: (11:39 PM) EQ is basically dead from what I've
heard.
RobVanDam: (11:39 PM) BF has good members, but they
got zero support
Chuck: (11:40 PM) How do you define support?
RobVanDam: (11:40 PM) I mean anything
RobVanDam: (11:40 PM) they JUST got a website
RobVanDam: (11:40 PM) about 9 months after the game's
released and the realm becomes active
RobVanDam: (11:40 PM) never got a server
RobVanDam: (11:40 PM) never got nothing
RobVanDam: (11:41 PM) and the BF realm had more
matches, practices, whatever the hell you want to
compare, BF had more than CS and WC3
RobVanDam: (11:41 PM) in many cases combined
Chuck: (11:41 PM) BBG really doesn't have a website.
Just a half-completed thing. For our purposes, a
website is unnecessary.
RobVanDam: (11:41 PM) yea, but for a group of 10 guys,
it's a hell of alot easier to direct a potential
recruit to say http://bf1942.clan-forsaken.com
RobVanDam: (11:42 PM) than "ok, go to
http://www.clan-forsaken.com/forum
RobVanDam: (11:42 PM) look for BF1942
RobVanDam: (11:42 PM) and look for trhe recruit posts"
Chuck: (11:42 PM) We just direct them to
http://www.clan-forsaken.com
RobVanDam: (11:45 PM) meh
RobVanDam: (11:45 PM) either way, we had 1/4th their
member base and were more active in the gaming
community
RobVanDam: (11:45 PM) and in the gaming community, we
were successful too
Chuck: (11:46 PM) "were" does that mean that BF1942
isn't so successful anymore?
RobVanDam: (11:47 PM) I don't know anymore, I'm not
integral in it anymore
RobVanDam: (11:47 PM) me and James were two big
figures in it, but I am pretty sure it will continue
on good
RobVanDam: (11:47 PM) the people we recruited are
smart, they started organizing stuff when we were too
busy, they're smart enough to keep goin smoothly
RobVanDam: (11:48 PM) granted, the person who gets
appointed to take our place isn't much of a surprise
RobVanDam: (11:48 PM) Lami's twin bro, who had never
played teh game with us at all
RobVanDam: (11:48 PM) who doesn't even know the basic
things of how we meet and such
Chuck: (11:48 PM) So in the past, HF provided servers
for its members, but it doesn;t anymore?
RobVanDam: (11:48 PM) and he's given leadership
RobVanDam: (11:48 PM) CS got one
RobVanDam: (11:48 PM) CS had 2 I think
RobVanDam: (11:49 PM) other realms didn't need servers
Chuck: (11:49 PM) Given leadership right after getting
back to HF after inactivity?
RobVanDam: (11:49 PM) yea, he's been inactive for lord
knows how long
RobVanDam: (11:49 PM) he was in military training
RobVanDam: (11:49 PM) just got back, and just got
power
RobVanDam: (11:50 PM) fucking HF politics is getting
insane
Chuck: (11:50 PM) Well youknow what they say about
connections, connections, connections
RobVanDam: (11:52 PM) lol, that's probably why I
lasted so long
Chuck: (11:53 PM) Take it that you left because you
got mad as hell and couldn't take it anymore?
RobVanDam: (11:54 PM) that, and the entire CS realm
was overruled in kicking out a member of their realm,
when I alone already had double the power needed to do
it
Chuck: (11:55 PM) Who was that?
RobVanDam: (11:56 PM) who, the overruler, or the
member that was to be kicked out
Chuck: (11:56 PM) the member who wasn't kicked out.
RobVanDam: (11:57 PM) Elmin
Chuck: (11:57 PM) Jimmy Page?
RobVanDam: (11:57 PM) whatever the fuck that dumbass
goes by now
Chuck: (11:58 PM) Why was he kept? Take it that
Laminad or Aeon were the overrulers?
RobVanDam: (11:58 PM) Lami
RobVanDam: (11:59 PM) Aeon agreeing after listening to
Lami
RobVanDam: (11:59 PM) of course, I didn't get any say
in it
RobVanDam: (11:59 PM) by the time I got to talk to
Lami, the decision was all made
RobVanDam: (11:59 PM) and of course, with that
decision, it doesn't matter what you say with one item
of power, or the second, or with the entire realm
backing you
RobVanDam: (12:00 AM) Lami said it, so it must be
obeyed
RobVanDam: (12:00 AM) if I can get Usk, one of Elmin's
friends, one of the people who LIKES Elm to go along
with me, that HAS to be a fucking clue doesn't it?
Chuck: (12:01 AM) Got this from StormFire earlier in a
PM:
In other words, if the shit hits the fan, we'll fix
it, otherwise we let the Realm Leader do their job,
dont wanna step on their toes. It is, after all, their
Realms.
RobVanDam: (12:01 AM) bullshit
RobVanDam: (12:01 AM) you need a MAJOR offense
RobVanDam: (12:01 AM) and you need to act RIGHT THEN
RobVanDam: (12:02 AM) otherwise, "It wouldn't be fair"
Chuck: (12:02 AM) Yes it is aclue. SF kind of
contradicts what went on. I'm pretty sure that Krioni
didn't want to give HYper just a slap on the wrist.
RobVanDam: (12:03 AM) I'd love to see someone just
step up and go all gung ho on punishments
Chuck: (12:03 AM) Yes, absolutely.
RobVanDam: (12:03 AM) I would have LOVED to see BBG go
on the forums publicly about strong punishment on HY
and Jewel
RobVanDam: (12:03 AM) and if Aeon would have even
touched them, I would have had a field day
Chuck: (12:04 AM) Well I did on the Gen Disc Forum and
Aeon moved it to the Uth Nagor thing and locked it.
RobVanDam: (12:05 AM) yea, I mean like hardcore
RobVanDam: (12:05 AM) I dunno, it's probably on a
scale only I would have the guts to do
RobVanDam: (12:05 AM) but then again, I never care
what people think of me
Chuck: (12:07 AM) Earlier, when Jewel posted to the
BBG Realm Forum about Friday night's operation, I
deleted the thread and told him not to post about
the op until after it was over with since enemies
might read it on the forum. What did he do? He
postied about it on the Gen Disc Forum. Unbelievable.
RobVanDam: (12:08 AM) and what's worse, nothing bad
will happen unless new leadership is installed
RobVanDam: (12:08 AM) remember that one post that
Darkwulf and Krioni made about things that need
changing?
Chuck: (12:09 AM) From what I can tell, all of the
Clan Staff treated what happened in TDZK as just minor
stuff.
RobVanDam: (12:09 AM) because they're fucking retarded
Chuck: (12:09 AM) NOt sure on what post you mean.
RobVanDam: (12:09 AM) it was old
RobVanDam: (12:09 AM) it had good content, but
Darkwulf went about the wrong way of posting it
RobVanDam: (12:10 AM) because he singled out the BBG
as a the only good realm in HF, which don't help
reform
RobVanDam: (12:10 AM) if someone were to post that
exact same thing with all the BBG stuff takin out,
saying basically everything said here, stuff might be
done
RobVanDam: (12:11 AM) because a large majority of HF
is sheep
RobVanDam: (12:11 AM) I COULD have changed HF to look
very much like HEL, but it would have taken me,alone,
about 6 months to do it
Chuck: (12:11 AM) On what board was it posted and
about when? I could look it up and post an improved
version.
RobVanDam: (12:12 AM) I'll find it, this kinda stuff
is my specialty
Chuck: (12:12 AM) thank you
RobVanDam: (12:12 AM) might be too old though
Chuck: (12:13 AM) You mean from the old forum?
RobVanDam: (12:13 AM) no, just might be very very
buried in this forum, meaning I'd have to go thread by
thread
RobVanDam: (12:13 AM) and it's spread out over many
forums
RobVanDam: (12:13 AM) I think it might be in the OLD
member's only forum, meaning it'd be inaccessable
Chuck: (12:15 AM) I guess I do remember a DW post once
that said that BBG was the best realm and that the
others needed reform to be as good as we were.
Chuck: (12:15 AM) Or something like that.
RobVanDam: (12:19 AM) it wasn't really a BBG is the
best clan ever
RobVanDam: (12:19 AM) it was more how there are
problems in HF
RobVanDam: (12:19 AM) he just said it horribly
horribly wrong
Chuck: (12:22 AM) Aeon on the Uth Nagor thread
explaining his view on the HYper thing to UsuRpeR:
dave, i locked it because there is another post that
explains everything and you'll see its a bit more
comlpicated that just 'he cheated'.
Its only more complicated in that what HYper could
have started a war that we would have a good chance of
losing.
RobVanDam: (12:22 AM) and how much does Aeon care?
RobVanDam: (12:23 AM) I'm tempted to dig out my Aeon
logs for a good ol' chuckle
RobVanDam: (12:23 AM) one sec
Chuck: (12:23 AM) zilch
RobVanDam: (12:31 AM) lol, I found a funny old log
Chuck: (12:32 AM) From the in-game HF1 Alliance Forum:
21:58] <Reaver|AFK> but you didn't see us stooping so
low as to CHEAT to try and make things work.
[21:58] <Jewel[FinalsWishMehLuCk]> right
[21:59] <Jewel[FinalsWishMehLuCk]> well you see
[21:59] <Jewel[FinalsWishMehLuCk]> its a game
[21:59] <Jewel[FinalsWishMehLuCk]> a small little
thing
[21:59] <Jewel[FinalsWishMehLuCk]> no one got hurt
[
Chuck: (12:32 AM) 21:59] <Jewel[FinalsWishMehLuCk]>
but if you want to take it personally
[21:59] <Jewel[FinalsWishMehLuCk]> go for it
Chuck: (12:33 AM) From the logs on the forum, its
clear that Jewel admitted then that he cheated.
RobVanDam: (12:34 AM) want to read a boring log about
how serious Aeon can get when his power is threatened?
RobVanDam: (12:35 AM) or exposed
Chuck: (12:35 AM) Sure
RobVanDam: (12:35 AM) back with the whole HF FU
fiasco, I was one of the people that wandered into
this thing where we found we had a spy in FU
RobVanDam: (12:36 AM) secretly feeding Aeon stuff
Chuck: (12:37 AM) And Aeon reacted like a scalded cat?
RobVanDam: (12:37 AM) he acted all powerful pretty
much, lol
Chuck: (12:38 AM) How did he reach his position?
Hardly any of the Clan Staff seem to really know what
they're doing.
RobVanDam: (12:39 AM) can I get your email, this new
proggie can't transfer
RobVanDam: (12:39 AM) Aeon basically usurped others
RobVanDam: (12:39 AM) Lami got his handed to him on a
silver platter
RobVanDam: (12:39 AM) Sean, don't knwo
Chuck: (12:39 AM) yes.
crector@clan-forsaken.com
or
hftrex@graffiti.net
RobVanDam: (12:39 AM) Stormy I think was way back in
the day
Chuck: (12:41 AM) Thinking back on it, the decline
might have started when ATmo left. Never did really
understand that episode.
RobVanDam: (12:41 AM) nah, I'd say about a year ago
when newer people came to power
RobVanDam: (12:41 AM) because alot of the people now
don't have a clue
RobVanDam: (12:41 AM) 2 years ago membership started
going down
Chuck: (12:42 AM) When the old time section leaders
like BlueFiche were replaced?
RobVanDam: (12:42 AM) yea
RobVanDam: (12:42 AM) him, Castaway, those types
Chuck: (12:46 AM) Right now on HF IRC:
<Malhavoc> Jewel is waiting outside the port to kill
you.
<crector> I know
<Malhavoc> We've got a little suprise prepared though.
<crector> thanks.
<Malhavoc> give me a sec and I'll have Desert Fox
position outside the port
<Malhavoc> Then we'll jump Jewel
RobVanDam: (12:47 AM) haha
Chuck: (12:48 AM) What caused the FU guys to jump
ship? The kind of stuff we've been talking about?
RobVanDam: (12:48 AM) a whole bunch of bullshit
RobVanDam: (12:49 AM) I never liked Sarv to begin
with, but if you can get behind and truely see Aeon
and Lami, they're REALLY power hungry
Chuck: (12:51 AM) From the port at #21195:
Sweeeet Revenge Freighter L: 140 30/14
Jewel [Online] Kitaran L: 15 [Examine]
RobVanDam: (12:52 AM) [00:47] <Reaver|AFK> yep
[00:47] <RobVanDam> I can't wait for this, lol
[00:49] <Reaver|AFK> if he pods anyone in hf I'm gonna
place bounties so large they will rank 3rd in the
galaxy EACH, on his and all of his "brothers"
accounts.
[00:50] <Reaver|AFK> unless our members pod him
sufficiently
Chuck: (12:57 AM) Did you see Jerle's post on the
email addys that Jewel's "brothers" used?
All starting with jeweladdict
RobVanDam: (12:57 AM) but one was his that he gave to
his bro's!
RobVanDam: (12:58 AM) honest!
Chuck: (12:59 AM) I doubt he even has a brother. Back
when I was in the TM and we had our own SE game, there
was a guy who Spiritclaw caught with 8 accounts all
using the same email address all created in 45 minutes
time span who claimed that they were all accounts of
family members.
RobVanDam: (1:00 AM) oh he has a bro! look at the
pic!!
RobVanDam: (1:00 AM) [/sarcasm]
Chuck: (1:01 AM) [19:44] <RobVanDam> hey aeon, is it
possible to remove someone
from HF for
lack of intelligence and call it lack of maturity?
[19:45] <aeon> no i can't just kick out azues
[19:45] <aeon> uhh
[19:45] <aeon> i mean..
Chuck: (1:02 AM) Very graceful of Aeon there...
RobVanDam: (1:02 AM) I was begging to kcik Azues out
for weeks
Chuck: (1:04 AM) Just happened t think that most of
the clans that have been close to HF such as the DOH
and Flesheaterz are dead now.
RobVanDam: (1:06 AM) yup
Chuck: (1:06 AM) Is Josh the same guy as Slushy?
RobVanDam: (1:06 AM) noooooo
Chuck: (1:07 AM) ok...Slushy messed up big on Friday
night;s raid along with HYper. He playws TDZK under
the name of Josiah.
Chuck: (1:08 AM) [23:36] <aeon> you should learn not
to bite the hand that feeds
you
[23:37] <aeon> you need to learn to adjust your
mentality for
the situation
And they say that HF is a mature gaming clan with no
room for lamers........
RobVanDam: (1:08 AM) lol
Chuck: (1:11 AM) [23:39] <aeon> hf is meaningless
So that's what his attitude is!
Chuck: (1:14 AM) Well, from what you sent, Aeon is a
uber-lamer.
RobVanDam: (1:14 AM) lol
RobVanDam: (1:15 AM) you wouldn't believe how long
I've been waiting to show that to someone
Chuck: (1:16 AM) If you showed it to me before the
TDZK hogwash, I might have thought that you had
fabricated it.
RobVanDam: (1:16 AM) lol
RobVanDam: (1:16 AM) I ain't one to lie, it's more fun
to catch people in the act
RobVanDam: (1:21 AM)
http://www.clan-forsaken.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10639
RobVanDam: (1:21 AM) my favorite example of catching
someone
Chuck: (1:21 AM) Yes. When I first posted to the BBG
Realm Forum, I felt for sure that HYper at least
would get kicked from his position of the GRFX Forum
RobVanDam: (1:21 AM) scroll down to the very bottom
and my last large post and log from 3 to the bottom
RobVanDam: (1:21 AM) if you're too lazy, just read the
summation :)
RobVanDam: (1:22 AM) HY couldn't be kicked for
anything that little! that wouldn't be fair!
RobVanDam: (1:22 AM) I'd show ya the log from Lami
telling me what's gonna happen with Elm, but it'd be
only one sided
RobVanDam: (1:23 AM) because I spammed the hell out of
him in PM because he muted me so he could talk without
being interrupted, lol
Chuck: (1:31 AM) Laminad sounds even more lame than
Aeon....
RobVanDam: (1:32 AM) I'd think he's more power hungry
than anyone I've ever met
RobVanDam: (1:33 AM) you know those stuck up preppy's
that are presidents of all these organizations and
shit like that?
Chuck: (1:33 AM) Lami's one of them?
RobVanDam: (1:33 AM) yuppers
Chuck: (1:34 AM) HF seems more and more like High
School....the "pop kids" in charge and totally unfit
for their offices.....
RobVanDam: (1:34 AM) yup
RobVanDam: (1:34 AM) that's exactly what it's like now
Chuck: (1:35 AM) Would it be ok with you if I posted
our ICQ conv on the in-game alliance forum in TDZK?
RobVanDam: (1:35 AM) I don't care
RobVanDam: (1:36 AM) anything we ever talk about you
can distrubute anyway you want
RobVanDam: (1:36 AM) never cared what people thought
about me, no use starting now
Chuck: (1:36 AM) Thank you. Up until the HYper
incident, I was reasonably happy in HF. Not so now.
RobVanDam: (1:37 AM) it's just better to know what
you're apart of then to be left in the dark
Chuck: (1:38 AM) Yes. Unfortunately, I've gotten to
prefer being in a multi-game clan and hardly any of
them are into BBG's.
RobVanDam: (1:39 AM) lol, HF isn't the only one out
there, and not even the best one
RobVanDam: (1:39 AM) just spend a little time looking
around and you'll find a good clan
Chuck: (1:40 AM) I know that its not the only one, but
back in 2000 when the TM conked out, HF was the only
clan i=that was willing to let the TM alliance in SM
into the clan. The other ones I contacted either
refused or wouldn't reply.
RobVanDam: (1:42 AM) worse comes to worse, most clans
implement a mult-clanning policy as long as the games
don't conflict
Chuck: (1:42 AM) If I could find a multi-game clan
that would take in the HF in-game alliances in TDZK,
I'd probably do it. Question: Would Hel be
interested?
RobVanDam: (1:43 AM) probably not, HEL isn't a big BBG
clan
RobVanDam: (1:44 AM) HEL isn't even the best clan out
there I would say, but it fills my needs
RobVanDam: (1:44 AM) just look around for a week, you
could probably find a decent clan out there somewhere
Chuck: (1:44 AM) That's the problem. The multi-game
clans that I know of are either all store-bought games
oriented or based around country dictator BBG's like
Earth: 2025
RobVanDam: (1:45 AM) I'll help ya look sometime this
week
RobVanDam: (1:45 AM) I'm free, I got time to scrounge
though websites
Chuck: (1:46 AM) Thank you.
RobVanDam: (1:46 AM) ain't a problem, besides, worse
comes to worse, just improvise :)
Chuck: (1:46 AM) You mean set up our own website?
RobVanDam: (1:47 AM) not even that
RobVanDam: (1:47 AM) just pool together resources and
see what ya got
RobVanDam: (1:47 AM) if worse comes to worse, you'll
see
Chuck: (1:48 AM) yes. It might just come to that.
RobVanDam: (1:49 AM) probably not
RobVanDam: (1:49 AM) geez, be a little optimistic :P
Chuck: (1:51 AM) I try, but its hard to see how HF
outside of the BBG Realm is going to matter any with
the coddling of HY & Jewel.
RobVanDam: (1:52 AM) oh, that's easy
RobVanDam: (1:53 AM) we'll just know where the
dumbasses are contained
Chuck: (1:53 AM) yes.
RobVanDam: (1:54 AM) did Jewel get his ass blown out
of the water yet?
Chuck: (1:55 AM) Nope. I left the port and plotted
course to the planet and he didn't even try to follow.
RobVanDam: (1:56 AM) aww
Chuck: (1:56 AM) He was online too. Probalby off-task
RobVanDam: (1:59 AM) what's the TDZK website?
Chuck: (2:00 AM) http://www.tdzk.net
Chuck: (2:00 AM) Want to try it out?
RobVanDam: (2:01 AM) yea, all this controversy got me
interested, lol
RobVanDam: (2:01 AM) could you give me a link to where
ya posted this ICQ log?
Chuck: (2:02 AM) Haven't done so yet. You'd need to
register and get into one of the HF allainces to read
it anyways,
RobVanDam: (2:03 AM) bah
Chuck: (2:04 AM) http://www.tdzk.net/help/
Chuck: (2:06 AM) Finally got done with that thread
with all the interruptions from other IM's about more
or less the same subject that we're talking about,
Chuck: (2:07 AM) Pretty neat how you figured out and
cornered the little liar.
RobVanDam: (2:07 AM) hehe, what can I say, that's my
specialty
RobVanDam: (2:07 AM) of course, it's a pretty simple
tactic that most police and such use
RobVanDam: (2:08 AM) just repeat the same questions
rephrased everytime
RobVanDam: (2:08 AM) that easily catches the dumb
liars because they don't have a damn clue what they're
doing and make up a new lie every tiem something is
brought up
RobVanDam: (2:14 AM) what's the best race for combat?
Chuck: (2:14 AM) Zalluns
Chuck: (2:15 AM) Just posted it up to the part about
possibly leaving HF.
RobVanDam: (2:15 AM) who hosts that forum?
Chuck: (2:15 AM) Its in-game. Coded by the game
developers.
RobVanDam: (2:16 AM) do you know how to save webpages
and such?
Chuck: (2:16 AM)
http://www.tdzk.net/alliance_forum.php?forum=318&topic=72
Doubt that you'd be able to reach it unless you get
into the game and alliance.
btw, House Forsaken 2 password: laminad
Chuck: (2:17 AM) Guess not.
Chuck: (2:17 AM) not really.
RobVanDam: (2:17 AM) when you're at the webpage ya
wanna save, go to file>save as
RobVanDam: (2:18 AM) save it when it gets some
replies, I wanna see this
Chuck: (2:18 AM) ok HOw would I get it to you?
RobVanDam: (2:19 AM) just email it to me,
robvandam_hel@hotmail.com or robvandamhf@hotmail.com
Chuck: (2:19 AM) ok...will do. thanks.
Chuck: (2:20 AM) So, you're not going to try TDZK? Or
at least not with HF?
RobVanDam: (2:20 AM) I'll try it, yea
RobVanDam: (2:20 AM) just probably not with HF, lol
Chuck: (2:20 AM) ok...understood.
Chuck: (2:49 AM)
http://www.clan-forsaken.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11595
Very interesting reading......
RobVanDam: (2:51 AM) that's so good and so serious I'm
not even gonna touch it
RobVanDam: (2:51 AM) gonna copy it though
RobVanDam: (2:51 AM) always good to have back-ups
Chuck: (2:51 AM) yes.
RobVanDam: (2:53 AM) well, I'm gonna get crawlin into
bed, the suns gonna be comin up soon
Chuck: (2:53 AM) ok...nice talking to you....bye
RobVanDam: (2:53 AM) cya later
Chuck: (2:53 AM) Good Night.
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